Revealing the Counsels of the Hearts (Part 1)

“Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord comes, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God.” 1 Corinthians 4:5

Steve Deace
Steve Deace

Steve Deace of WHO Radio in Des Moines, Iowa says his listeners have asked…

    “Why leaders in organizations that you’ve held in high esteem didn’t seem to be acting as consistently or righteously as you thought they had in the past.”

Steve says he…

    “has wondered the same thing which is why back in January we founded the Veritas Institute, which is our own talk radio think tank on truth if you will. and like so many of you I have grown weary and frustrated with those claiming the mantle of conservative or Reagan or Christian only to find out after we’ve help them to win or raise money later on that they are anything but.”

I know (because many of you have written me) think that I am on some type of witch hunt after our “conservative monuments” and that I am doing more harm than good. Really? I am in the pursuit of truth, to bring political and moral clarity to the fog of political correctness. I have dissected this long interview Steve did of Mr. Minnery because I doubt most of you listened to the whole interview. So I have broken it into four easy 10 minute segments for you to quietly and circumspectly listen to Steve’s interview and to allow the Holy Spirit to reveal to you just who it is that provides counsel to your heart. Is it the Word of God or political pragmatism?

Steve’s interview of Tom Minnery, who has for twenty years led the political arm of Focus on the Family (FOTF) and is James Dobson’s right-hand man, is Steve’s latest installment from the Veritas Institute. Steve aptly describes Mr. Minnery as the “Karl Rove of the Religious Right.”

Steve warns that the interview will not be for those who believe “that the American Left is so evil than anything our side does is bad still means we’re holier than thou.”

Now the interview starts out cordial enough with Mr. Minnery answering Steve’s question about Dr. Dobson’s leaving the leadership of FOTF and what his legacy will be.

At about the five minute mark of the radio excerpt I’ve provided below, Mr. Minnery, while talking about Jim Daly, he says that Mr. Daly…

    “…had grown up in several areas of the ministry, marketing, international relations, donor development, all of those very important things that showed Jim has a wide background with Focus on the Family was a natural in his mid-forties to be considered for the next generation and the board heartily agreed.”

What may seem as nitpicking by me I submit is a very revealing look at the problem at many of the front running parachurch organizations such as FOTF, Family Research Council, Liberty Counsel, and American Center for Law and Justice, just to name a few.

Mr. Minnery describes FOTF as a ministry, but go back and read the words I’ve quoted just after ministry…marketing, international relations, donor development. Is that describing a ministry or a business? You decide for yourself.

Steve comments that in his small group studying the Truth Project that…

    “…an entire generation has lost much of the spiritual legacy you guys at Focus on the Family were founded to try to help to defend and to maintain. I’m going to turn 36 years old this year and I’m just entering myself into the phase of life where I’m taking issues of righteousness seriously on behalf of my three young children. And I was hoping that you would help me to understand a few things that I don’t understand. Back in 1990, Dr. Dobson made this historic vow…”
    “Finally I want to give a pledge to you on a political level and I’m speaking for myself not Focus on the Family which is a nonpolitical organization. I can just tell you that I have determined that for the rest of my life however long God lets me live on this earth, I will never cast one vote for any man or woman who would kill one innocent baby.”

Steve continues…

    “…I’m someone who is a living breathing testimony to the pro-life cause; I’m the product of a 14 year old pregnant unwed mother. My wife is the product of a woman who was conceived in a rape and they tried to abort her in the back alley in the ‘50s, so I care greatly about this issue. I found that pledge (Dr. Dobson’s) to be incredibly courageous. But then he also said some things last year…”

(Dr. Dobson speaking)

    “…there are two now that I’ve indicated that I absolutely cannot under any circumstances vote for, one of them is Rudy Giuliani and the other one is John McCain for different reasons. Giuliani is not pro-life and McCain is…sometimes is…is in favor of embryonic stem cell research and so I’m not sure on where he comes down on some of the issues. But they both are not…neither of them is acceptable to me and I’ve said so this week and so that is what all the flap is about…You know that I am a patriot. I love my country and I’m deeply concerned about it right now. The fact that I would even consider not casting a vote for a presidential candidate…I certainly will vote for all the other issues and people on the ballot. But the fact that I would not vote for the president if it comes down to Obama and Clinton versus McCain…I simply cannot in good conscience be a party to putting any of them in power because I believe that they will do irreparable harm to our country.”

Steve explains to Mr. Minnery how he has long been a great admirer of FOTF and Dr. Dobson, (as have most of you been), and he found Dr. Dobson’s statement to be strong and courageous. Then Steve asks this very tough but valid question:

    “…why he (Dobson) then turned around and endorsed Mr. McCain when you look at the fact that he’s (McCain) got the Obama position on experimenting with human life; he was opposed to a human life amendment, which means he thought that states could determine whether to kill babies or not. It was clear that Mr. McCain was willing to violate God’s law on some level. Did Dr. Dobson violate his historic 1990 pledge by supporting Mr. McCain?”

As a matter of full disclosure I too voted for Mr. McCain and I have made abundantly clear to all of you that I shall never again pick pragmatism over piety. And I am not talking about a false piety as some may accuse me of, but of the piety that the Random House Dictionary defines as a “reverence for God or devout fulfillment of religious obligations.”

To hear this segment of Steve’s interview, click the link below and come back tomorrow for Mr. Minnery’s reaction.

Part 1 of Steve’s interview with Tom Minnery


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